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[Fred]

This is the 485-99 dial. Master book shows the 681-99 dial. At least the 17J 681 version may have been available with either dial. Ad from 11/1935. Yes, it says 17J, but it has my dial & bracelet. So I’m sticking with the name

[Mr. Bieser]

Saw a black dial on this model once. Mine is also 15 jewel.

[Dietrich]

Whar do you think about this December 1936 ad?

[Fred]

I think that’s our 15J model name. No fancy corner cuts, like Quad 140. Great! I’ll update title to include both names. Must admit, I think the Baron name fits best with the size. Also will add more photos.

Mr Bieser—curious if yours also had the same style mark with no cal #. A black dial would be sharp!

[Mr. Bieser]

"Mr Bieser—curious if yours also had the same style mark with no cal #. A black dial would be sharp!"

Identical style markings. No cal# my sn 230xxxx.

One tiny difference with mine is I believe it could have had a different bracelet originally than yours.
Though, I suppose the original could've been replaced leaving these style rings but...it "feels" factory.
Nice find on the model name, Victor is victorious.

[Dietrich]

I slightly doubt that the model name "Victor" is correct. I found it in two more or less identical ads from the same jeweler which were published just two days apart. In 1936 the Victor was one of the most popular models (together with the Victoria, remember the big promotion with flyers, display cases and other marketing material) and there were two popular Victors in 1935/1936 which definitely had that name. The smaller being the 1936 advertised. But none of them matches the Quadron 120 and I tend to believe that these two advertisements were just a mixup of the pictures by the jeweler.
This August 1936 ad supports your "Baron" name, the 15J movement and also shows the Victor:

And here we go with another Baron ad from December 1935:

And last but not least Dec, 1935, an advertisement showing it, but nameless. Seems not to be a smart watch, it is radio free, therefore it comes for cheap.

My suggestion would be to stay with the "Baron" name and book the Victor under the jeweler mixup category. What makes me a bit curious is that the price of $29.75 would not support the use of a Quadron movement but would be correct for the plain Victor model.

[Fred]

Maybe you also get a free radio? Lol Guessing they mean radium free? Very happy with the Baron name. Seems it was converted over from 17J to the 15J as standard. Master book not updated. Interesting.

Also, I agree the alt bracelet looks to be factory. 2.3mm so a bit later than mine. Cool!

[Mr. Bieser]

Ah, that's right, and the Victor model being named after Victor Mclaglen.

[Fred]

and note the variable bracelet styles in the Baron ads... some updating going on

[Fred]

And official Gruen national ad from 12/35 showing 15j is named Baron